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Wialon Mobile application(Android/iOS)

(edited by trakfamily 27/11/2015 21:25:29)

Topic: Wialon Mobile application(Android/iOS)

Although Wialon mobile application is good at basic tracking of units/history, As wialon partner we feel current Android/iOS Wialon applications seems to be very basic and lacks  many much needed features for a user to use it effectively. Request wialon team to revamp mobile application with below features-
1. Ability to see current GPS location of mobile on map and show a navigation path to unit
2. Ability to add/edit/delete Safe zone and POI from mobile application
3. Ability to show unit location using A-GPS when unit is in no-GPS area.
4. Showing battery level of tracker upfront instead on inside  parameter.

We will appreciate if wialon product management could take these feature improvement in app in next release.

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Thank you, trakfamily, we'll consider your proposals.

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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Hi, is a great app, but will be excellent be have several options manager from cms or web hosting:
1. We can to activate/deactivate the WIALON app for each user login, big_smile not IP blocked.
2. Resume delay for each unit, for example:  total KMs track,  total Fuel consumption, total parkings, total trips on day, etc.

Thanks guys.

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kellneraressun, you can control availability of the app by the means of services (either through account itself or through billing plans). The service you need is called "Wialon mobile client".

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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Dear Alex,

We posted enhancement ideas above in Nov last year, and you said to consider the proposal. But since then there is no update as to when these feature will be available in app.

We strongly believe that many of these enhancements are essential in Wialon mobile application. Not many people will disagree to the fact that we are living in "Mobile First" era, meaning for any service, majority of essential functionality that can be used on Desktop/Laptop, should be readily and easily available on Mobile App. Although Wialon mobile app is great for real time tracking/history view, unfortunately it lacks support of such basic features as GeoFence creation, Notification setup, LBS positioning etc. on mobile app, thats bare necessary of all GPS tracker users and workflows.


List of Enhancements:
1. Ability to add/edit/delete Safe zone from mobile application
2. Ability to show unit location using LBS params (i.e. mcc, mnc, loc, cell_id) when unit is in no-GPS area. Enable full LBS positioning support on app/hosting site even if it requires to be Paid service i.e. require module activation for account.
3. In app alert for wialon supported notifications (such as GeoFence enter/exit, Alarm, speed, etc).
4. Showing battery level of tracker upfront on UI.
5. Ability to see current GPS location of mobile on map and show a navigation path to unit.


As Wialon partner we feel these requests will add much needed value to Wialon app, and to our mutual customers and all app users. We will appreciate if you give us update on enhancements and rough timelines when these requests will be available in app. If you need, we can have detailed discussion these enhancements on private emails.


Thank You!!

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trakfamily wrote:

We strongly believe that many of these enhancements are essential in Wialon mobile application. Not many people will disagree to the fact that we are living in "Mobile First" era, meaning for any service, majority of essential functionality that can be used on Desktop/Laptop, should be readily and easily available on Mobile App.

I would say, it depends of what kind of clients you have!

Our clients for example use the Wialon Plattform for 20% of customers for simple notifications (by email or sms) on special events, so this 20% even dont use the Web Frontend regulary.
60% use it for organizing their vehicles (and use the Webfrontend, but the typica disponent would never check the status of his vehicles on his smartphone sitting on the toilet ;-)
And maybe the rest of 20% are so small customers that the "boss" is sometimes watching his workers on the smartphone (or show his friends how cool he can check his workers if they are working or not).

If i imagine the customers i know personal from us, there is one or two who realy needs the mobile app...

trakfamily wrote:

List of Enhancements:
2. Ability to show unit location using LBS params (i.e. mcc, mnc, loc, cell_id) when unit is in no-GPS area. Enable full LBS positioning support
on app/hosting site even if it requires to be Paid service i.e. require module activation for account.

That would be in my eyes also a nice function (especialy if you are searching for your vehicle)

trakfamily wrote:

3. In app alert for wialon supported notifications (such as GeoFence enter/exit, Alarm, speed, etc).

You mean PUSH notifications... using a polling system just consumes to much power.
Implementing of Push notifications with a multi user / multi device system is really really complicated.
And using push email would be much easier and already works now!

trakfamily wrote:

5. Ability to see current GPS location of mobile on map and show a navigation path to unit.

that would be also nice :-)

Wolf.

Politeness dictates it to write his name on a post
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trakfamily, thank you for your proposals.

Here's update on required features:

1. We don't feel like this will do any good to most customers. Wialon Mobile Client is specifically designed to perform basic tracking tasks. All adjustments (configuration of units, creation of geofences, etc.) are supposed to be made in Wialon Hosting. Bringing all these adjustments to Wialon Mobile Client will make it considerably heavier and slower and much less intelligible.

2. In fact, LBS position should be shown in Wialon Mobile Client. Note: it works only if the option "Allow positioning by cellular base stations" is enabled in unit's properties (the Advanced tab). Maybe, you meant something different? In this case, please specify.

3. Actually, the app supports notifications. Here you can find corresponding instructions on how to configure them: http://docs.wialon.com/en/hosting/mobile/mobile0/notify

4. We believe that battery is not the most vital parameter for most of our customers. At least, it's not so important as speed, ignition, current state, fuel, mileage, etc. for most of the cases. We'll definitely consider your proposal for further discussions concerning this product, but not for now.

5. This is an interesting suggestion and probably a demanded one. But the implementation will take some time. So, maybe we are talking here about the middle of this year.

Mobile Development
Gurtam
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Dear Kopa,

Thank you for your response and excuse for delayed response I was following this up on email and forgot to check forum post. Please find response below-

1. You are right that Wialon Mobile Client is designed for basic tracking task. However, Notifications (for example safe zone) are even more important that just tracking because it helps user to get trigger when some important event occurred since its not feasible or possible for user to stick to laptop screen to see when his vehicle crosses certain point. Kindly understand that basic Notification management (specifically Geofence creation and its notification setup ) as part of your Basic tracking task and add support in mobile app.

2. Currently Wialon hosting and application totally relies on GPS positions for unit location. For cases when GPS not available, units current position is not shown and these positions does not come in Tracks or history view also. The enhancement request here is if "Allow positioning by cellular base stations" is enabled for unit, Wialon should show unit position using LBS (if unit currently in non-GPS area) and these LBS positions should also be shown in Tracks and Reports (for the time when unit was in non-GPS area). Since LBS positioning has comparatively higher inaccuracy, it should be somehow indicated that location is detected using LBS positioning so that user is aware of accuracy of data.     

3. Thank you for details, will check.

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Maybe I am missing something here but you can set up a notification to push a message to the mobile client that the unit has entered a safe zone or exited a safe zone. For setting the Safe Zone i would recommend using GPStag to capture the coordinate details and then have the person responsible for updating Wialon create the zone. Alternatively if you want to set the Safe Zone directly then log into the hosting platform from the mobile and set your zone from there.

Like most of the other comments I believe the Mobile client should be for  monitoring with limited updated capability, eg we can send commands to the device, updating should always be carried out using the Hosting interface.

Phoenix Solusi
Mobile Visible Secure
Specialists in data acquisition and analysis for mobile and fixed assets. Integration in to content management systems is a specialty we have.
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trakfamily
It is really impossible to jam all Wialon Hosting features into Mobile Client. It would become "heavy", consuming, and slow. That's why all configurational functions are out of Mobile Client, and only tracking functions remain.

Mobile Development
Gurtam
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(edited by trakfamily 15/02/2016 22:22:12)

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Kopa,

How about the improvement no 2 regarding LBS in my last post? Its unfortunate that Wialon does not use LBS positioning on Mobile and Hosting platform, LBS to so crucial for unit tracking when its in Non-GPS area. Wialon currently has very limited support for LBS, first enable "Allow positioning by cellular base stations" for unit and then when you require to know LBS position you have to go to LBS Detector tool that will find position of last message that too ONLY when you are lucky enough that LBS coordinate are registered in limited  opencellid database. Why don't Wialon use Google LBS API instead which has vast cellid database? Wialon needs to treat LBS positioning in much better ways.

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(edited by bako 16/02/2016 17:25:58)

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trakfamily wrote:

LBS is so crucial for unit tracking when its in Non-GPS area

Non-GPS places are North and South Pole,  all other areas have acceptable GPS coverage. Modern devices can remember last valid GPS coordinates even if user is inside the building. 

trakfamily wrote:

Why don't Wialon use Google LBS API instead which has vast cellid database?

Technically we can implement anything. But adding such feature is non-technical question. Does it worth adding? If you read Google Terms and Conditions, you will see how much it costs for commercial use. Are you ready to pay huge money to Google for this small feature? Replacing all customer's hardware to reliable GPS trackers is cheaper than spending crazy amount of money on adding Google LBS feature for GPS tracking system. If you can contact your cell provider and get some info about GSM base station coordinates, you can add this info to opencellid database, it will be useful for many people in your region.

Technical Support Specialist
Gurtam
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Hi,

One more feature is ability to play a sound for notification and able to select the sound for notification.
Please conside.

Mr.Teera Koedchan.
Developer, Mobile Innovation (Thailand) Company Limited
“We contribute to society by delivering SECURITY and SAFETY to customers”
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There looks to be an update on LBS wialon-local-1604 Update at http://weblog.gurtam.com/2016/03/the-lo … al-update/

LBS Location
An alternative method to GPS location is a new handy feature in Wialon Hosting. When GPS satellites are not available, Wialon will automatically switch to LBS (cellular tower-based) location. If ‘LBS detected’ data is more recent than GPS one, then it will be used for determining current unit’s location. LBS location feature will be helpful for units tracking in container shipping, tracking in buildings and urban areas with poor GPS signal.

Couple of Questions:
1. Can you tell if/when this feature will be available in Wialon Mobile App?
2. Will this feature work by default Or one need to check ""Allow positioning by cellular base stations""?

Kindly answer.

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hi

1. position of the unit is determined by LBS in case - this data is more recent, than GPS and there is a record for such point. Basically in mobile app last position will be LBS-taken if it is determined as actual.
2. this will not work by default for all units and has to be enabled for each of them. But there is a way to bulk update all your units - make sure to export/import either all "filtration" section or export to wlp, delete everything, except LBS flag (make sure to leave necessary headers and footers) and import - I'd recommend to check your file on one unit first.

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Is it good fo work with mobile recorder https://mobilerecorder24.com/spy/apps.html or it will be a conflict?

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I agree with Alek, and also it would be much effective if the APP has the possibility to choose other fields from reports in the TIMELINE tab, and be able to compare various days of one variable, compare trips or mileage, or other variables.

Maria Clara Palacios
Mobile #: (1) 626-344-5987
web: www.summitec.co
Skype: maria.clara.palacios
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Would it be possible to get the Mobile Wialon APP report trips with less than 1km or 1mph? With that it would be posible to track people, assets, pets, not just vehicles. Thank you!

Maria Clara Palacios
Mobile #: (1) 626-344-5987
web: www.summitec.co
Skype: maria.clara.palacios
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(edited by comandorastreamento 29/07/2017 06:05:19)

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5. Ability to see current GPS location of mobile on map and show a navigation path to unit.

Hello!

We really need this functionality on Wialon Mobile. When we need to find a vehicle, it is difficult to find the best route.

You could leave an address link to direct to the external map. That way, we could draw routes.

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comandorastreamento wrote:

5. Ability to see current GPS location of mobile on map and show a navigation path to unit.

Hello!

We really need this functionality on Wialon Mobile. When we need to find a vehicle, it is difficult to find the best route.

You could leave an address link to direct to the external map. That way, we could draw routes.


At first they could only include geographic coordinates. Already solve the problem.

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Wialon Local Mobile Client — iOS mini-update:

Local 1704 users will now have a possibility to assign sounds to the notifications.

+ other minor improvements and bug fixes.

Pavel Bushuyeu
Product Owner, Mobile
Gurtam
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Hi Pavel Bushuyeu, Alex and Wialon Team

I have now a feeling that you really do not care about customers requests. We have made enhancement request years back and still see these feature missing in the app. Request you to kindly consider below enhancement in the mobile app.

List of Enhancements:
1. Ability to add/edit/delete Safe zone from mobile application
5. Ability to see current GPS location of mobile on map and show a navigation path to unit.

Point no 1 above is important because the World has moved away from desktop/laptop to Mobile App first, and wialon should understand and accept this transformation to stay relevant as a company. Hence kindly accept GeoFence creation and notification support on mobile app.
Point 5 above has been requested by many customers (including few in above posts), that's such a basic thing missing in the Wialon app. One should be able to navigate to the current GPS location of the unit, and this should be simple for wialon to implement from technical feasibility point of view, all you have to do is take current location(LAT/LONG) of the unit and open it in installed Map app (say Google Maps, or Apple Maps) to start the navigation.

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Hi trakfamily,

We are sincerely sorry that you got the feeling that we are not listening to the current users of the application.
Work with the geofence is still under consideration as that is not in the concept of the view only client application.

As for the second app enhancement, it is planned and users will see it in the upcoming updates. Exact dates will be known further on.

I will keep the community posted in the group.

Pavel Bushuyeu
Product Owner, Mobile
Gurtam