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Dear partners!

We are glad to introduce you to a new app of Wialon product line, which is to be released in a couple of months. This app is a special solution for public transport and aimed at companies dealing with passenger transportation.

With the app, you'll be able to:

• plan rides/trips to be fulfilled each day
• control vehicle's presence on the route
• get notifications about route deflection and stop skipping
• view in real-time manner how well vehicles stick to the schedule, see their delay and hurry
• detect concentration of vehicles at one place
• generate reports upon fulfilled rides/trips
• etc.

First of all, a base of stops should be created in the app. The stops could be created either manually or imported from KML.

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Then, you assemble routes from those stops. The best way to move from one stop to another is suggested by the app, however, you can edit this line according to your preferences.

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For each route, a timetable should be created. That is a set of schedules, according to which, vehicles are supposed to visit stops of this route. A route can have hundreds of such schedules.

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Pending rides can be observed in a special panel, where you can check if everything is configured properly and also check if correct units are assigned to each ride. Units can be assigned to rides either automatically (if they are set in schedule's properties) or manually by a dispatcher.
   
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There are several interfaces to perform real-time online tracking of the routes. A special scale can show you all units on a particular route, their progress, current location, information about their attitude to the schedule — yellow plates for those who are in a hurry, red plates for vehicles with delay.

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Alternatively, similar thing can be shown on the map — vehicle markers move in real-time there.
   
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Notifications as well as reports will be also provided in the system. Besides, access to the system can be organized in a smart way — giving different users different privileges, visible elements, and allowed interfaces/panels to visit.
   
Any Wialon Hosting account can be integrated with the app. Then, access is given to users who 'live' in this account (individually). Units (vehicles) and their data is drawn from Wialon Hosting, too. In all other aspects, the app has its 'independent life'.

Looking forward to your comments and proposals!

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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Dear Gurtam Team

I just back from a trip and checking forum. I really surprised by this new application and what you all do in Gurtam!
Such an application is very interested for me.
Just one question, is it possible to use it in WL or not?  Please do it as a way to be available from WL as General transportation is a part of government mostly and such  customers insist on their DC and local installation.

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Regarding the name as you have another application called Logistics i think a name containing Trans (stands for Transportation) would be convenient.

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Hamed,

"Trans" could be a very precise part of the name but can raise questions as being "too progressive" wink
Although "wiaTrans" sounds nice to the ear.

Alexander Smirnov
Business Development
a.smirnov@gurtam.com
"Try not. Do or do not. There is no try."
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Dear Hamed,

Thank you for your suggestions and your interest in our new product! It's nice to know that wPass is going to have a chance in your region!

Concerning integration with Wialon Local, it will become possible only next year, in WL-1804 or something. However, I think that it gives you more time to prepare your customers and make a good campaign, and also learn all functionality and maybe even suggest some improvements as I know you surely would wink

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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alek, do you have any plan to add ETA to this new application? There is no ETA function in whole Wialon system and this function is very useful (specially for wPass).
Regarding WL integration i can't understand what is the problem with integrating some applications with it. I guess most data transactions between applications and Wialon is done via Remote API and most parts of API is same for WH and WL. May you explain the reason of delayed integration of Logistics or this new application with WL?

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Alek,

Looks good! The Gurtam team are doing great things!

We have are working with a few small bus companies, they average about 20 buses each, this could prove quite good for them.

I agree with smal "Trans" in the name would be more instantly identifiable maybe.If we had to pick one from above consensus is ByBus or BusTA....

Looking forward to having a review/play of this app.

Onwards and Upwards!!
Knowledge, data & information is power!
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Katerina can we participate in the trial...and test

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aressun, sure!
The trial will be ready in a couple of weeks. I'll get to you then.

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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We "floated" this concept with small bus company for their thoughts.

This is one of 3 regional bus companies we are working with, city bus services for us use government systems. This may provide us an advantage for non government controlled ones.

They showed very keen interest - although they are not yet a customer, but will be in the coming weeks.

Onwards and Upwards!!
Knowledge, data & information is power!
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Seems to be a promising product, I suggest the name BusShare, BConnect

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Had some feedback from a couple potential clients with suggestion of TransConnect or TCon/TransCon....

They don't just have buses they also have ferries, so thought it might better to be a bit more broad with the name rather than just bus focused. smile

Onwards and Upwards!!
Knowledge, data & information is power!
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Will some of these enhancements flow through to the standard route functionality? Some of the visualizations are needed for basic route monitoring as well particularly the on map variance tracking for critical rounds.

Phoenix Solusi
Mobile Visible Secure
Specialists in data acquisition and analysis for mobile and fixed assets. Integration in to content management systems is a specialty we have.
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JohnG, no, the new app is not connected with standard route module in any way.

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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I just want to give you my feeling about this app which seems fine but also difficult to sale without a complete hardware solution including  Display pannel inside the bus for customer information. My experience is coming from a project with  a big French town company Bus may be 500 to 800  bus. Now they have a solution with a big french company the name is Engie Ineo  see the link https://www.engie-ineo.fr/systrans .When this type of company will have some deal with the main town in France and outside France it could be very difficult to compete with them even in small town. So my opinion is that we need a compete solution with hardware manufacturer for have a good chance to sell Wialon in Public transportation. I donot believe that this product could interest private transportation company but may be i am not right .

Georges  Geoloc
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GE, thank you for your feedback! And also for the link to Engie Ineo project.

Our new product is aimed both at state and private companies. But we believe that for the time being, our main customers will be transportation companies in small and medium towns, mainly private companies I think. In the end, it all depends on the region of the world: while in Europe this area is mostly equipped with some solutions, in other parts of the world there are still a lot of potential customers. And even in Europe, I believe, our new app may be rather competitive, at least in the terms of its cost (you pay only for the units, software is free).

And one more remark about "all inclusive" solution. We are software developers, and we provide software. You add hardware of your choice to this equation — and you sell it as "all inclusive" solution. wink

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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Alek ,

This is going to be a most useful app for me and my customers! I have been thinking about similar application for long time and now I have chance to market it! can't wait for it. Thank you.

About the name for this app, How about BusTime ? If not suitable, please wait, I am going to come up with some new idea for your app and then decide the name. Name is very important, this app is to big not to have well thought name and more functionality.

New start up in commercial vehicle tracking with special interest in Tachograph data download and live visulisation
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GE пишет:

I just want to give you my feeling about this app which seems fine but also difficult to sale without a complete hardware solution including  Display pannel inside the bus for customer information. My experience is coming from a project with  a big French town company Bus may be 500 to 800  bus. Now they have a solution with a big french company the name is Engie Ineo  see the link https://www.engie-ineo.fr/systrans .When this type of company will have some deal with the main town in France and outside France it could be very difficult to compete with them even in small town. So my opinion is that we need a compete solution with hardware manufacturer for have a good chance to sell Wialon in Public transportation. I donot believe that this product could interest private transportation company but may be i am not right .

Actually this is just display, nothing impossible to implement such solution if you really need it for customer. You need:
- small PC-board, like raspberry (~$30)
- connect it to monitor like on the picture (~$70)
- do all the installations and wrap it beautiful in the bus (~$200)
+ develop software that run on linux-board, connect to Wialon via API and render this page via HTML (one time fee)

So, $300 or let say up to $600(EU price) per bus and you have such solution for your customer.

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GE пишет:

I just want to give you my feeling about this app which seems fine but also difficult to sale without a complete hardware solution including  Display pannel inside the bus for customer information. My experience is coming from a project with  a big French town company Bus may be 500 to 800  bus. Now they have a solution with a big french company the name is Engie Ineo  see the link https://www.engie-ineo.fr/systrans .When this type of company will have some deal with the main town in France and outside France it could be very difficult to compete with them even in small town. So my opinion is that we need a compete solution with hardware manufacturer for have a good chance to sell Wialon in Public transportation. I donot believe that this product could interest private transportation company but may be i am not right .

To have Display panel inside and outside of the Bus, use add-on modules to many good existing tracking devices on the market. I am not very technically minded but RS232 or similar is all you need on tracker unit. This will drive the display units. These units can be bought off the self. This LED display units can be bought with:
(1) Display unit alone
(2) Display + Sound module (Bus stop announcement) you can call it “Talking Bus!”
(3) It is also possible to have tracker of your choice to be the part of outside LED panel. This is easy solution, as installation of tracker; GPS antenna and outside LED panel are all in one unit.

New start up in commercial vehicle tracking with special interest in Tachograph data download and live visulisation
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shal пишет:

- small PC-board, like raspberry (~$30)
- connect it to monitor like on the picture (~$70)
- do all the installations and wrap it beautiful in the bus (~$200)
+ develop software that run on linux-board, connect to Wialon via API and render this page via HTML (one time fee)

So, $300 or let say up to $600(EU price) per bus and you have such solution for your customer.

Hello Shall
your solution is very good on technical point of view , but for company  like us ( without Soft engineer ) i was thinking that if it was possible to have few manufacturer of GPS Device  able to include a part of your proposal like connexion on Wialon API  and deliver information on our own Display . In this case ,it could be easier to propose a complete solution to the customer and also a lot of customer doesn't like to pay two Sim card on the same véhicule.

Georges  Geoloc
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alek пишет:

GE, thank you for your feedback! And also for the link to Engie Ineo project.

Our new product is aimed both at state and private companies. But we believe that for the time being, our main customers will be transportation companies in small and medium towns, mainly private companies I think. In the end, it all depends on the region of the world: while in Europe this area is mostly equipped with some solutions, in other parts of the world there are still a lot of potential customers. And even in Europe, I believe, our new app may be rather competitive, at least in the terms of its cost (you pay only for the units, software is free).

And one more remark about "all inclusive" solution. We are software developers, and we provide software. You add hardware of your choice to this equation — and you sell it as "all inclusive" solution. wink

Dear Alek
Thanks you for your answer i agree that in Europe the market could be the small town and I understand that you target is the word !. I know that you are software développer and that you count on partenaires for the hardware and sell .So I would not say that we need an all inclusive solution from Gurtam but i would to know if you have some hardware partner asGPS manufacturer or similar company  already involved in this project at the beginning. Because for selling this type of project in Europe as Telematic compagnie (without soft engineer)  we need to find some good  brick for sell our inclusive solution. The display by itself is not a problem but the connection between your App and the Display is not so easy and also as we need a GPS device in the first place it seems logic to imagine a part of the solution with it.

Georges  Geoloc
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GE you may want to take a look at Streamax as their hardware is being integrated into Wialon.

Phoenix Solusi
Mobile Visible Secure
Specialists in data acquisition and analysis for mobile and fixed assets. Integration in to content management systems is a specialty we have.
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tata, when this app will be released? we have some projects believe that will be done by it and want to arrange them.

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hhamedk, the new app will be released this summer.
However, Beta version will be available in a couple of weeks, and testing can be arranged for those who couldn't wait till the official release smile

Katerina Alexandrova
Business Analyst
Gurtam
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please count me in